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Post by badseeds Fri 26 Oct 2012, 6:47 pm

I don't buy More Crap than News, this link was on another forum:

Pics here

and here
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Post by davetheworv Fri 26 Oct 2012, 7:27 pm

470cc fuckin hell its a moped,lol

they look kinda nice tho
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Post by Hario Sat 27 Oct 2012, 12:35 am

It all depends on your use, if we all wanted max power why are we on cb500's?
Im really glad to see honda continuing to make parallel twins, and not follow this trend for ever larger cc's and greater complexity
I want a bike that will pick up a decent pace while staying cheap to run, easy to fix myself and not weigh a ton. the bhp is a pretty minor concern to me, i plan to spend 0% of my time at 100+ mph


my other bike is a dirt bike, its about 30bhp and 350cc, it is very far from dull to ride believe me Wink
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Post by Guest Thu 08 Nov 2012, 1:50 pm

Hario and Spit both make a good point - The CB was and is about being a solid all round commuter, with that little "sleeper" ability. It doesn't look much, but a quick twist of the right grip and you're at the national speed limit before you know it (because we all abide to the speed limt, don't we gentlemen?)

But a lighter frame, lower centre of gravity means it more fun when the roads get twisty. Maybe Honda are trying to focus it as the first big bike you don't want to get rid of?
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Post by davetheworv Thu 08 Nov 2012, 6:57 pm

i know badseeds you dont read mcn but there is a feature on the 3 new 500 hondas next week
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Post by ryancook1993 Thu 08 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

I have a feeling the 500 market will come Alive soon with bikes around 46BHP to comply with the new rules , the 33BHP bikes market will die, ninja 250's won't be worth much at all.
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Post by Guest Fri 09 Nov 2012, 7:47 pm

JapManEng wrote:Maybe Honda are trying to focus it as the first big bike you don't want to get rid of?



Funny you should say that, I bought my CB500 in March '98 with 50 miles on it after passing direct access, it's still going strong at 81,000!

The amount of good times I've had on it I couldn't bear to part with it! Smile
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Post by badseeds Fri 09 Nov 2012, 11:23 pm

ryancook1993 wrote:I have a feeling the 500 market will come Alive soon with bikes around 46BHP to comply with the new rules , the 33BHP bikes market will die, ninja 250's won't be worth much at all.
He's right y'know. It'll be like 1982 all over again when the 250 market died. And as then, it'll inject some excitement and development into little bikes.
The market for small displacement bikes is huge and I think Honda want to attract commuters on Leads & Silverwings on to these new 500's. Honda are making a new class for themselves and every other Japanese manufacturer will follow suit.
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Post by fryatuck Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:20 pm

Its all to do with new laws from EU.
If the anti tampering law is passed then If you restrict a bike to 33bhp then that will be its max power for the rest of its life.
So you buy a 1000cc bike that will only have a max power for its life.
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Post by Basil Moss Thu 15 Nov 2012, 8:51 am

Looks good to me, I'd ride one. Not so much oomph as our CB500's but I imagine the fuel economy will be better. I think if motorcycling for fun is going to remain accessible to a wide market we need bikes with low running costs, and if you're going to use that same bike for transport ie motorways it needs to have a bit of guts. I think bikes like this bridge that gap between 125's and the really big ones.
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Post by muttley1 Thu 15 Nov 2012, 11:20 am

I think that the now defunct Used Motorcycle Guide got it right years ago - cb5 is a nicely balanced bike for the Uk. That applies to 500's too (well, 500 singles and twins) - good economy, not overpowered, cheap maintenance/consumables...
I've had my cb5 since 2001 and its seen sportsbikes and tourers come and go around it, does everything and keeps going. Also had other cb5's, all were good bikes.

My cb does 60mpg, sounds good but with small urban cars doing the same now the manufacturers need to get into fuel economy and shake up dealer maintenance pricing. A parallel twin, light chassis bike is the way forward. Fast forward to the 60's when these size bikes, in a lower state of tune were day to day transport. Add in todays build quality and here we go - safer biking, mass appeal and a retro time marketing theme. Works for me!



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Post by TimReal Thu 15 Nov 2012, 3:01 pm

Here's the vid they were making:

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Post by Trollface Thu 15 Nov 2012, 6:27 pm

I imagine this is the same engine as the NC700 with smaller displacement ( half a Jazz lump )?? The red line seems to be set higher, though ,so I don`t know.
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