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Post by jerryfudd Fri 21 Aug 2015, 3:35 pm

I've always thought that the CB500 leaned quite far over on the side stand (anyone else?) - I was curious if anyone knew of another Honda one that will fit and is a bit longer?
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Post by sullivj Fri 21 Aug 2015, 4:06 pm

I've got that new CBF stand if you want to try it?
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Post by jerryfudd Fri 21 Aug 2015, 4:12 pm

that'd be good Smile
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Post by stoney! Fri 21 Aug 2015, 4:22 pm

weld a taller foot on the standard one?
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Post by jerryfudd Fri 21 Aug 2015, 4:23 pm

Don't trust augmenting that's holding the bike up
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Post by ANDYC Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:45 am

I use one from a CBR400rr(NC29) longer, stronger and looks much better.
Direct replacement too Very Happy 
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Post by jerryfudd Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:53 am

I've seen one for sale but not the RR does that matter?
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Post by ANDYC Sun 23 Aug 2015, 10:48 pm

Not sure, I can only go on the one I use which is the NC29.
This is also known as the Gullarm model.
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Post by jim157 Mon 24 Aug 2015, 1:23 am

jerryfudd wrote:I've seen one for sale but not the RR does that matter?




The NC29's all have the RR suffix and are pretty much physically the same throughout their production run (1990-98ish).  There were subtle changes to the suspension, gearbox, carbs and the loom on later (94 on) bikes, but I'm pretty sure all their side stands are the same.
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Post by ashcroc Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:08 am

Ask the seller for the end to end measurement & compare it with ANDYC's?
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Post by jerryfudd Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:33 am

thanks, at 15 posted I figured it would be worth a punt so went ahead and ordered it.

If its more upright and the CB adapter for my Abba stand works out I'm going to go ahead and remove the main stand.
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Post by ashcroc Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:10 am

The sdide stand length has always confused me a bit.  It's lmost as if the bike was designed with lower profile tyres in mind. Having the shocks jacked up to the max helps a bit but it's still a bit 'tilty'.
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Post by jerryfudd Wed 26 Aug 2015, 1:46 pm

well this arrived today but there appears to be a bend in it? (does it show in the pic as much as in the flesh?)

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I'm pretty sure that isn't right but can you confirm?

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Post by jerryfudd Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm

I messaged the seller reporting that it's bent - he replied telling me that he'll send another and it's no problem as it was bent before they sent it.

right.

well I guess that makes it ok then?!
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Post by jim157 Wed 26 Aug 2015, 4:24 pm

Yep, that's definitely not right.  There's some really weird sellers on eBay, isn't there?
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Post by jerryfudd Wed 26 Aug 2015, 6:39 pm

ok, i mis-read the message apparently he believes it was straight when it was sent..... I can only assume my subconscious realised how ludicrous it is for a solid metal stand wrapped in many many many layers of bubble wrap could have accidentally got bent in transit and reverted to a more logical statement.
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Post by ANDYC Wed 26 Aug 2015, 7:39 pm

Mine's definitely straight Very Happy
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Post by jerryfudd Tue 01 Sep 2015, 8:46 pm

straight as an arrow straight? I got the replacement sent today and still not convinced its straight Neutral
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Post by jerryfudd Tue 01 Sep 2015, 9:15 pm

jerryfudd wrote:straight as an arrow straight? I got the replacement sent today and still not convinced its straight Neutral

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is this right or am i going mad?
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Post by ashcroc Tue 01 Sep 2015, 9:29 pm

It looks tapered from the pics. What's the view like with the ruler on the other side?
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Post by jerryfudd Tue 01 Sep 2015, 9:58 pm

ashcroc wrote:It looks tapered from the pics.  What's the view like with the ruler on the other side?

other side is fine, I mounted it up in a vice which makes it more noticeable and yes it does taper.

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yup..... im a picky bugger lol

I mailed the seller back who said sent both back for a refund, bet he'll argue the point when I say I'm not paying for postage.

could get it heated and straightened without loosing strength? to be fair it is only slightly out but if I'm going to get it shot blasted and powder coated I need it to be worth the investment in it.
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Post by sullivj Tue 01 Sep 2015, 10:21 pm

Perhaps they all bend under the weight of the bike?
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Post by ashcroc Tue 01 Sep 2015, 11:35 pm

sullivj wrote:Perhaps they all bend under the weight of the bike?


That or it's designed that way. Ideally you'd want to compare it with a brand new one to find out which.

As for heating it causing it to lose strength, it's steel so would just need heat treating properly to keep or  possibly improve it dependant on the grade of steel used.

It's also possible the bend happened when the foot peg got welded on during manufacture.  If you watch this vid of a katana being made, around 4:30 you'll see the curve being put in just by the quenching process!
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Post by jerryfudd Fri 04 Sep 2015, 12:08 pm

thanks, I've messaged the seller to see if I can reclaim some (of the not allot) that I spent to cover the pain in the butt and get it straightened then powder coated.
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Post by jerryfudd Fri 04 Sep 2015, 8:59 pm

right, so took it to my father-in-law who knows far more about manipulating metal than I

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...and after repeating heating and tapping

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