Re: Tyre Choice!

by jimbobs63 Thu 28 Nov 2013, 11:00 am

G3o wrote:
I would be very surprised if it was the tyres causing the bike to follow road markings. no matter what tyre you have on a bike will have a tendency to follow lines and ruts in the road.

It is probably more a case of you see the markings and tense up and watch the markings causing the bike to follow the markings because of your subconscious input.

The best advice i ever got for riding was "Let it slide"! When it is wet, see and be aware of the drains/markings etc. force yourself to relax on the bars and let the rear tyre do what it will.

You will find that no matter what speed or lean angle you're at ... ... ABSOLUTELY nothing will happen 90% of the time.

Think about it logically, a drain cover is what? 2ft across? 2ft is 0.000568182 miles. 2 feet at 30mph will take you 0.0455 seconds to cross. Do you really think your tyre is going to give out on you for that?! What makes people fall off is seeing the drain, panicking about it and tensing up and getting themselves in a state over it. on the odd chance you hit a drain and a slippery bit of tarmac afterwards you'll get a bit of a wobble from the back end. That is it!

Just a bit of thinking matter for you :]

Thanks for the advice - very useful!

Just to confirm:

I'm not concerned about the rear wheel and road markings at all, nor about the front wheel when simply rolling along at moderate or higher speed, however, the only accident I have had, was when I had to brake hard (a muppet in car turning right in front of me), the front wheel skidded to the side.

Therefore I feel more concerned about urgent braking as the front wheel goes over such markings, and I notice the front wheel hunt along markings only at very slow speeds - e.g. when filtering. If then I was to have to try to brake hard I just wonder whether there may be a problem.

As you say, probably all tyres are similar in that situation.

Thanks again,
Jim

by Gonzumzum Thu 28 Nov 2013, 5:25 pm

Just ordered a set of Metzeler Lasertec.
Heard good things about their longevity.
For normal road usage, i doubt i will ever feel any difference from BT45s.

If anything relevant shows up, ill come and tell...
They are good looking though. Kinda classic....

by Beresford Thu 28 Nov 2013, 5:42 pm

Gonzumzum wrote:Just ordered a set of Metzeler Lasertec.
Heard good things about their longevity.
For normal road usage, i doubt i will ever feel any difference from BT45s.

If anything relevant shows up, ill come and tell...
They are good looking though. Kinda classic....

These were on my bike when I bought it and so far no complaints. They are wearing well but I've only done 3000 miles on them ( with no real signs of squaring off yet.)

by Gonzumzum Thu 28 Nov 2013, 5:46 pm

Thats good to know.Thanks for sharing...

by steeeve66 Wed 04 Dec 2013, 1:59 pm

i'm on my second set of Roadriders - and i only have the second because the BT's were out of stock and i needed them replaced for an MOT - it'll be my last pair as i find them terrible in the wet.

by **badseeds** Wed 04 Dec 2013, 5:52 pm

steeeve66 wrote:i'm on my second set of Roadriders - and i only have the second because the BT's were out of stock and i needed them replaced for an MOT - it'll be my last pair as i find them terrible in the wet.

Now that the shitty weather is starting to envelope us, I too am finding Roadriders a bit lively.

by Frasblade Fri 06 Dec 2013, 2:23 pm

I have bt-45's, lasted well and not bd a tyre, although I am going for bt090's next as I kinda push my humble cb500 a bit beyond what it can do most of the tyre, I keep thinking i am on the blade!!lol, I will be going for 110/70 and 140/70 so more rubber on road and improve handling. Some good websites online to get good deals for them too, £165 a pair.

by G3o Fri 06 Dec 2013, 9:00 pm

Frasblade wrote:I have bt-45's, lasted well and not bd a tyre, although I am going for bt090's next as I kinda push my humble cb500 a bit beyond what it can do most of the tyre, I keep thinking i am on the blade!!lol, I will be going for 110/70 and 140/70 so more rubber on road and improve handling. Some good websites online to get good deals for them too, £165 a pair.

I would recommend the Diablo Rosso II if you're going oversized. Still Crap in the rain, Still awesome and sticky in the heat! Its a tad cheaper than the 0090 too!

by Gonzumzum Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:54 pm

Does anyone have any experience with the Maxxis M6102?

My Goldentyres are disapearing very fast, mainly the rear, and i feel that i will have to change them in the beggining of next year.

by Beresford Tue 02 Dec 2014, 4:39 pm

Gonzum, you were getting Lazertecs, how did they go ? I'm still on the same front Lazertec that was fitted to my bike when I bought it !!

by Gonzumzum Tue 02 Dec 2014, 4:55 pm

Hey Beresford.

The Lasertecs were awesome. I don´t know the specific mileage i made with them, but ill ask my Gf so that she can see the paper where i have it all noted.
The bike came with some middle wear Bt45, that i enjoyed, but i changed for the lasertecs after.

I think the tires are a little bit harder than the Bt45, but they compensate that with way longer longevity and a good wear pattern.

Im not an agressive knee on the ground rider, but i found them pretty awesome even in terms of grip.

I was always a bit cautious with tire pressure, and always used a bit more on the upside, specially the rear.

I will tell you the number later today i hope.

I would just like to test different things, that why i asked about the Maxxis.

by **eternally_troubled** Wed 03 Dec 2014, 12:15 pm

Gonzumzum wrote:Does anyone have any experience with the Maxxis M6102?

My Goldentyres are disapearing very fast, mainly the rear, and i feel that i will have to change them in the beggining of next year.

I used M6102 (front) and M6103 (rear) (which are both Maxxis promaxx, I think) on my old Ducati without any problems. Can't say I do many intentional miles on that in the rain (unlike the CB500!), so I can't really vouch for the wet performance.

If you can get them for a good price then I would suggest they might be worth a try.

by Gonzumzum Wed 03 Dec 2014, 4:14 pm

Thanks ET.
On those european tires websites, the M6102 are always the cheapest front tires availables.
Thanks for the input nonetheless.

Would you consider them a soft or hard rubber?

by dado_dassler Thu 04 Dec 2014, 9:18 am

Basil Moss wrote:I'm on BT-45's. Pricey though, my new rear tyre is £100! Any cheaper options out there?

if you want to stick to the bt-45s (unless you're a local-shop-supporter) you can have one rear shipped to uk for 77£ from reifen.com.
i always look here unless i get lucky on ebay-alike sites.

by **eternally_troubled** Thu 04 Dec 2014, 12:36 pm

Gonzumzum wrote:Thanks ET.
On those european tires websites, the M6102 are always the cheapest front tires availables.
Thanks for the input nonetheless.

Would you consider them a soft or hard rubber?

I think I would consider them medium :) They don't seem to be wearing too badly (mind you, I haven't done many miles on them) but seem to have a good amount of grip.

I got them quite cheap, so I'm not too concerned if they don't last too long.

by Gonzumzum Thu 04 Dec 2014, 12:57 pm

Thats an awesome store Dado.
Too bad they dont ship to Portugal.

If i don´t find them extra ship, i may stick with the Metzelers.
It´s difficult to find them half as cheap, but they can easily last twice as long.

Like for the last tires i bought. They were 70% of the metzelers cost, but i dont think they will last even 1/3 of the distance.

"Buying cheap comes out expensive"...Portuguese saiyng! Smile

by Gonzumzum Thu 04 Dec 2014, 10:22 pm

Just got confirmation.
My Lasertecs made 19100 km (rear) and around 24000 km the front one.

Quite impressed.
I think i will go with these ones again.

by shakyman Fri 05 Dec 2014, 9:08 pm

bought a pair of dunlop GT501,s for only £79.00 on ebay, seem really good so far..(only done 300mls)..

by geewhizz Fri 05 Dec 2014, 11:38 pm

I'm on a set of dunlop arrow max d103 and I'm on my second rear, done a good few k on them now in all weathers and a track day with no problems, in fact they've been pretty awesome. They're a lot more confidence inspiring than bt45's and they don't square off nearly as much. Ebay about £100 a set - winner.

by Stooby2 Wed 10 Dec 2014, 8:39 pm

I fitted a set of Avon Roadriders not too, long ago and so far I'm pretty impressed with them. Very good grip in the wet.

by **eternally_troubled** Thu 11 Dec 2014, 12:51 pm

Stooby2 wrote:I fitted a set of Avon Roadriders not too, long ago and so far I'm pretty impressed with them. Very good grip in the wet.

I have them on mine and haven't had any problems yet (had them for a year or two) - some people don't seem to like them, but that may be down to taste.

There was a problem in the past with these tyres cracking/degrading - mine have started to do this and if it gets bad I will change them - I paid a cheap price for them so I don't really mind. It will be interesting to see if your 'new' ones have the same problem in a few years time.

by HomeBrew Thu 08 Jan 2015, 7:53 pm

Has anyone tried Pirelli MT75s? They are suggested on the swing-arm, but nobody ever mentions them.

by **eternally_troubled** Fri 09 Jan 2015, 12:43 pm

HomeBrew wrote:Has anyone tried Pirelli MT75s? They are suggested on the swing-arm, but nobody ever mentions them.

No, I haven't but I think they are quite an old design, even older than the original Dunlop Arrowmax (also recommended on the swingarm).

If you look here at the sizes part:

http://www.pirelli.com/pirellityre/ww/en/motorcycle/mt_75.html

you can see that Pirelli don't seem to offer them in the right sizes for our bikes anymore.

The Pirelli website suggests that you use 'Sport Demon' for the CB500 - I've never tried them.

by **badseeds** Fri 09 Jan 2015, 3:27 pm

My first CB500 had an MT75 on the front when I bought it. The bike was 15 years old and had only covered 7500 miles. The tyre seemed okay, but I quickly changed it when I saw the 1996 date code on it. I put an Avon Roadrider on it..... The old Arrowmax D103s are brilliant.

by stevew Fri 09 Jan 2015, 5:41 pm

Sava "racer" 70 profile..........good so far Wink

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