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Post by Richie178 Sun 27 Aug 2023, 1:40 pm

Hey all, new here, purchased a cb500 which i cannot for the life of me get running

Its got a track wiring loom on it, i have the diagram for this...

Its got spark, with clean/new plugs, gaps are within tolerence

Battery is good

Carbs rebuilt, standard pilots, 125 mains, 1.5 turns out on the mixture screw, needles float valves all good

Checked the timing and thats all as it should be,compression is good

I cannot get it to run, just cranks over.


Any info/advice is appreciated.

Thanks!
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Post by joe mc donald Mon 28 Aug 2023, 9:12 am

are the plugs getting wet when trying to start. If they are dry the tappets may need setting.
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Post by Richie178 Mon 28 Aug 2023, 10:36 am

Plugs are wet
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Post by joe mc donald Mon 28 Aug 2023, 8:31 pm

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Yes as you say spark good compression good. Then it has to be carbs. Wrong jet. perhaps faulty choke or just needs cleaning properly or carbs over filling. I should be fixable but it will test your patience. Also check for air leaks and all carb rubbers but that would show signs of richness rather than flooding.
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Post by ANDYC Tue 29 Aug 2023, 6:25 am

Are the HT leads going to the correct cylinders?
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Post by Richie178 Tue 29 Aug 2023, 7:06 am

Im not sure, will check later.
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Post by burudi Tue 29 Aug 2023, 1:11 pm

integrated vacuum tube in fuel tap?


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Post by Richie178 Tue 29 Aug 2023, 5:40 pm

https://i.servimg.com/u/f91/20/51/89/42/20230810.jpg
Thats the coil wiring, top coil pack is cylinder 2.

Is this correct?
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Post by ANDYC Tue 29 Aug 2023, 5:42 pm

Just swap over the HT leads and see if it runs
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Post by Richie178 Tue 29 Aug 2023, 6:45 pm

Swapped the ht leads over and still no joy.
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Post by Richie178 Thu 31 Aug 2023, 10:34 am

Can anyone tell me which coloured wires goes to the green spade terminal on the coil packs?

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Post by burudi Sat 02 Sep 2023, 8:53 am

consult the workshop manual and then go to the forum.....I suggest
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Post by ANDYC Sat 02 Sep 2023, 9:11 am

When you check the spark, where do you earth the plugs to? Does the engine have a good solid earth connection?
Try changing the plugs to known good ones. Past experience tells me that some plugs will show you a spark outside the engine, but won't operate under pressure in the engine. Strange but true🤔
90% of running problems on these engines are caused by the coil/ HT leads and plug cap combination. That's why I changed to a more modern coil on plug set up many years ago and still run them today to eliminate the problems. 
If as you say the plugs are wet, then fuel is getting through so with a spark it should run albeit badly if the carbs are not operating properly. If it doesn't run at all then the issue is with the ignition.
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Post by ANDYC Sat 02 Sep 2023, 9:15 am

As a point to note, Don't rely on a plug because it's new.
There's a lot of cheap counterfeit ones on the market now.
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Post by Richie178 Sat 02 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm

Thanks for the reply chaps, i have another wiring kit to test as dont have much faith in the one thats fitted.


I have consulted the haynes manual but it doesnt state whether its the blue/yelow or black/white wires which should be on the coloured spade connector on the coil pack.
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Post by ANDYC Sat 02 Sep 2023, 1:51 pm

The coils should work whichever way they are wired, one is just more efficient than the other.
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