Answer to visor misting

by Beresford Thu 29 Oct 2015, 5:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fjrS-de4P3E
I got one of these self-adhesive pinlock visors. It seemed worth the risk at only a fiver on ebay, and I must say I'm well impressed. The weather at the moment is cold and humid in the evenings - just right for really annoying fogging on the visor. However I find there is no problem at all, even with my visor tight shut.

by jerryfudd Thu 29 Oct 2015, 5:27 pm

I got a HJC Rpha10+..... well two in fact and they come with antimist pinlock strips. it lasted about a year before i had to replace it which i was only 20 quid so no biggie and that was with 5-day a week use.

by Beresford Thu 29 Oct 2015, 5:46 pm

Should have said my helmet is a 12 year old Shoei RXR, and at the moment a replacement isn't affordable.

by jerryfudd Thu 29 Oct 2015, 5:49 pm

don't blame you, only reason I have a second is that the insurance after the crash bought me a new one and I still think there is life left in it.

in summary was just agreeing that they are great at stopping misting but will need to renew the strip after awhile.

by wornsprokets Thu 29 Oct 2015, 6:18 pm

Looking at a shoei nxr today 420 euro, it comes with pinlock also. Not cheap but i use to have a shoei xr 900 and it did me well took major smack when i hit the road , major gouge in chin, not a fan of arai .

by jim157 Thu 29 Oct 2015, 9:52 pm

I got an NXR a while back. A nice lid, much smaller and lighter than my XR1100. An improvement in every way apart from an annoying piece of velour on the right hand strap that seems to twist out of the way allowing the strap to dig into my jaw bone.

www.racevisors.co.uk are giving away an excellent transitions visor free with every NXR at the moment.

by biglee Sun 01 Nov 2015, 11:29 pm

hi all i just purchased last sat a shark stelf matt black helmet with a free pinlock insert in a flash sale for 140 /60 pounds off

by Beresford Sun 01 Nov 2015, 11:39 pm

Matt black helmets in the summer sun are a good means of frying your brains. Even shiny black ones are uncomfortable in the summer.

by **badseeds** Mon 02 Nov 2015, 12:10 am

Pinlock is a marvellous invention, especially when used with a Bob Heath V-Wipe.

by wornsprokets Mon 02 Nov 2015, 7:55 am

Looking at shoei xspirit2 john mcguinness replica not cheap its discontinued and half price it originall was

by Stooby2 Mon 16 Nov 2015, 7:52 pm

I have a Shoei Neotech and found it was fogging even with the Pinlock. After much trial and error I found the chin piece was the problem. It virtually seals the helmet at the front and doesn't allow any air in or breath out. Removing it was too cold in the winter, so I punched a few holes in it and not had a problem since.

by skyrider Mon 16 Nov 2015, 8:58 pm

I picked up a nitro racing helmet from a car boot a few months ago in black and silver it hadn't had that much use it even smelt new inside the guy on the stall said he had given up riding so ok for £7 Very Happy

by OldRocker Wed 09 Jan 2019, 3:51 pm

I have 2 Shark Crash Helmets a Speed R and the other Evo One flip front, both came with Pinlock anti mist visors - I can see clearly now - oh that's a song Shocked

by balth Sun 28 Jun 2020, 1:28 pm

I used to have one of those shark evoline 3 helmets that flip all the way around to make it open faced and the visor itself was antimist, no insert needed. It was a great helmet though very noisy. The antifog coating stayed working for two years daily use and there were no visual artifacts, perfect visual acuity (and great field of vision on that helmet).

Had pinlocks before and have a pinlock insert in my current HJC helmet and they are also good (or even essential) but there are some visual artifacts, especially in winter with all the annoying high intensity bright white car lights, but even just a cars breaklights have little halos around them. Every pinlock i've ever used has this.

Does anyone know if those adhesive inserts have the same issue?

by OldRocker Sun 28 Jun 2020, 2:23 pm

balth wrote:I used to have one of those shark evoline 3 helmets that flip all the way around to make it open faced and the visor itself was antimist, no insert needed. It was a great helmet though very noisy. The antifog coating stayed working for two years daily use and there were no visual artifacts, perfect visual acuity (and great field of vision on that helmet).

Had pinlocks before and have a pinlock insert in my current HJC helmet and they are also good (or even essential) but there are some visual artifacts, especially in winter with all the annoying high intensity bright white car lights, but even just a cars breaklights have little halos around them. Every pinlock i've ever used has this.

Does anyone know if those adhesive inserts have the same issue?

I used to get halos around lights with or without riding my bike or driving the car. Had cataracts in both eyes removed and distance lenses installed in the back of the eyes at a specialist opthalmic hospital. Cured my sight and now don't even need glasses, certainly worth having your eyes checked regulary.

by balth Sun 28 Jun 2020, 3:59 pm

Tis true, I am getting older but the halos (I'm not even sure if that's the right word) go away when I lift the visor up. Not yet got cataracts cheers

I probably should get another check soon though! On particularly bad nights coming over the back road home I've seen myself riding with the visor open.

by Beresford Sun 28 Jun 2020, 11:19 pm

balth wrote:I used to have one of those shark evoline 3 helmets that flip all the way around to make it open faced and the visor itself was antimist, no insert needed. It was a great helmet though very noisy. The antifog coating stayed working for two years daily use and there were no visual artifacts, perfect visual acuity (and great field of vision on that helmet).

Gosh. I started this thread 5 years ago. Where has the time gone? Anyway, I now have an Evoline 3 also, and like you say it is a bit noisy. However the flip method is so neat I can forgive it . However one thing that makes me uneasy is that the drop-down sun visor is operated by a knob which is connected through a slot in the top of helmet itself. I don't think this is a good idea at all.

When it comes time to replace it, I'd like a modular helmet with a similar flip over front but without that slot. Anybody know of such an animal?

by OldRocker Mon 29 Jun 2020, 9:20 am

Have you tried sun glasses instead of the drop down visor? My rayban aviators work.
Sorry couldn't resist.

by Beresford Tue 30 Jun 2020, 9:17 am

Heh. Actually I don't seem to ever use the sunvisor, but drop-down visors come with the territory. In the case of the Evoline 3 it is operated from the top of the helmet needing a slot in the helmet shell which must weaken it considerably. I like the way the jaw section rotates and stows neatly at the back of the helmet, so I wondered whether there was something similar from another maker with a different mechanism for the visor perhaps ?

by OldRocker Tue 30 Jun 2020, 9:50 am

Beresford wrote:Heh. Actually I don't seem to ever use the sunvisor, but drop-down visors come with the territory. In the case of the Evoline 3 it is operated from the top of the helmet needing a slot in the helmet shell which must weaken it considerably. I like the way the jaw section rotates and stows neatly at the back of the helmet, so I wondered whether there was something similar from another maker with a different mechanism for the visor perhaps ?

I am not sure who else makes this type of system, maybe Shark has the patent for it. I had an open face with a drop down sunvisor, the thing kept falling down after a couple of years when going over a bumpy road so took the thing out as couldn't tighten the mechanism. Ended up using the skid lid shell as a pot plant.

by balth Thu 18 Mar 2021, 9:57 pm

Beresford wrote:Heh. Actually I don't seem to ever use the sunvisor, but drop-down visors come with the territory. In the case of the Evoline 3 it is operated from the top of the helmet needing a slot in the helmet shell which must weaken it considerably. I like the way the jaw section rotates and stows neatly at the back of the helmet, so I wondered whether there was something similar from another maker with a different mechanism for the visor perhaps ?

Unfortunatly I haven't found anything similar. They are making a new model of it now but the sun visor has the same mechanism and I agree with you, I don't like it. I found that sometimes it would drop down a tiny bit as well so that I could see the sunvisor just at the top of my vision. Handy when the sun is high, but otherwise annoying. The flip is great though and the anti mist visor is outstanding. Sadly, I lost the shark after I took an (embarrasing) tumble at around 5mph turning off a road in the snow. Went with an HJC afterwards that has a little lever at the side to use the sun visor (mainly I wanted a quieter helmet). I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has had an anti mist visor, as opposed to an insert, and how well it worked.

by Beresford Fri 19 Mar 2021, 9:25 pm

Wow. Thread 5 years + and running. Anyway, I think that there may be an alternative to the Shark Evoline. I've seen a helmet on-line called the Roof Boxxer which doesn't have a drop down sun visor. Not quite as elegant as the Shark but not too bad. Hoping to get a closer look when helmet change time comes around.

by balth Sat 20 Mar 2021, 10:54 am

Nice. Whilst investigating the boxxer I discovered there is an LS2 version as well called the LS2 Valiant. It does have a sun visor but does not have an anti-fog treated visor as the evo did. Instead it has the pinlock system, which is good in a way as it means that you don't need to buy a whole new visor when the coating fades. The boxxer appears to have an anti mist visor, though how good it is I don't know yet.

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